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Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 12/7/2010 9:37:17 PM   
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This is sick.  It describes him as a "legend", berates the police, glorifies violence and hero worships him!
Thoughts people?

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 12/7/2010 9:49:07 PM   
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I can only hope that the people who join it are doing so for the 'shock factor' rather than genuinely believing it.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 12/7/2010 10:43:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		"R.I.P Raoul Moat! You were a legend. Evaded over 600 cops,a tornado fighter jet, helicopters, dogs etc. for 7 days..REST IN PEACE! ♥"

What the fuck? Any prick can do that. He was in the countryside in Northern England, there's a million different places to hide.

People in that group should An Hero like him...

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/An_hero

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 12/7/2010 11:37:52 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 3:02:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eh, I'm more annoyed that the tabloids instantly cast anyone with a gun and anyone who supports said person a straight-up "monster". Obviously it is bad that he killed someone, but I think his whole case has been beefed up too much. Shot (didn't kill) one police officer and suddenly the whole force is after him? Shows more about the police than him.
From what I can gather, the police fucked him over real bad, so his anger was justified.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 4:17:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		He killed someone so should have been brought to justice. 

However it was an interesting story that he evaded the police for so long especially after they announced they had closed in on him & had to backtrack when all they found was his tent.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 4:27:25 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 4:58:30 PM   
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Eh, I'm more annoyed that the tabloids instantly cast anyone with a gun and anyone who supports said person a straight-up "monster". Obviously it is bad that he killed someone, but I think his whole case has been beefed up too much. Shot (didn't kill) one police officer and suddenly the whole force is after him? Shows more about the police than him.
From what I can gather, the police fucked him over real bad, so his anger was justified.



This. The Sun - Britain's so called best 'newpaper' - was painting anyone and everyone in the group as monsters and, to be honest, I found it absymal if that's a reflection of the majority of British people... I was in Sainsbury's with my Mum, the other day, and there was a copy of the Sun on the table in the cafe so we idly flicked through it. There was this huge story in it on Moat. Rather... stupidly, it painted his 'decent' from a baby to 'monster', including baby photos/images of him as a toddler. What's that all about, really? I couldn't care less if people hate the man, but why put baby photos of him up? If that's designed to stir up sympathy for the family, or leave you 'shocked' at his 'transformation' then you (objectively, not people in this forum) are actually brain-dead...

OK - he was a murderer. OK - he shot at a policeman. But why the huge story/obsession with the man? Even know, after he's dead and 'justice' has been served, the media is still going on about him. What's the point? It just seems rather... creepy, to me XD

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 8:03:09 PM   
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OK - he was a murderer. OK - he shot at a policeman. But why the huge story/obsession with the man? Even know, after he's dead and 'justice' has been served, the media is still going on about him. What's the point? It just seems rather... creepy, to me XD


It involved guns. Fair to say it isn't a common thing here, rather stabbings are. And it was the biggest man-hunt we've ever had (if I remember correctly). He went to prison for murder, got out and attempted to fulfill a grudge on the police and it turned into a massive search over a week just to kill himself (or possibly not, from what I heard earlier*). I spy a movie plot.

Also: MONNEH!

*Apparantly a shotgun-tazer was fired, and wasn't issued by the Home Office (i.e. regulated and properly tested), which might have caused him to pull the trigger of the gun he had pointed on himself.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 8:51:10 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 9:47:30 PM   
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*Apparantly a shotgun-tazer was fired, and wasn't issued by the Home Office (i.e. regulated and properly tested), which might have caused him to pull the trigger of the gun he had pointed on himself.


But if he hadn't have had the gun pointing at his head he wouldn't have died.  He was a coward and wanted the easy way out.  The police man he shot had done nothing to deserve that.  If he'd have killed one of my friends I'd want to shoot qa few thousand volts through him too!

Kandy, no one on here is supporting Raoul, hence the strong reaction against this facebook page.  I don't think we should just "move on" though.  This happened days ago, not years.  History, no mkatter how recent should never just be accepted and forgotten.  We need to learn from it. 

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 9:54:31 PM   
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But if he hadn't have had the gun pointing at his head he wouldn't have died.  He was a coward and wanted the easy way out.  The police man he shot had done nothing to deserve that.  If he'd have killed one of my friends I'd want to shoot qa few thousand volts through him too!


Just a note, I'm not supporting the idea it was the policeman's fault, I was just pointing out what the news had brought up (which'll no doubt cause a lot of controversy and the police will get the shit...)

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/7/2010 10:04:15 PM   
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For God's sake people. If he had shot your Dad or your Nan you'd think differently. He was a monster, anyone who kills has obviously gone wrong somewhere along the line. Glad he's dead, now let's all move on and forget about this loser.




Yeah - like Satehen said, none of us are defending Moat. We're just voicing our concern about various issues around this case. He wasn't a nice guy - but monster is surely a little... excessive. He was mentally unstable and was a criminal, granted. But monster is surely a term reserved for real evil, not this guy.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 14/7/2010 2:07:23 PM   
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And it was the biggest man-hunt we've ever had (if I remember correctly).


But why did it need to be the biggest manhunt in recent times

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 14/7/2010 4:05:11 PM   
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And it was the biggest man-hunt we've ever had (if I remember correctly).


But why did it need to be the biggest manhunt in recent times


Because the prick had a gun and was willing to kill people. Which means 'it's a big deal'.


Edit: this (well the FB pages in general) made it to the news. Even Cameron agrees Roaul was a cock (not exact words sadly (and would take one to know one)).

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 14/7/2010 10:13:54 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 14/7/2010 10:17:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the same sometimes, but it'd be hypocritical for me to say because I usually rant on Freedom Of Speech.

FB must have some sort of rule for this...

Then again, do they care? You aren't allowed hate groups, yet there's hundreds of anti-Gay ones.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 15/7/2010 2:28:22 PM   
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And it was the biggest man-hunt we've ever had (if I remember correctly).


But why did it need to be the biggest manhunt in recent times


Because the prick had a gun and was willing to kill people. Which means 'it's a big deal'.


Obviously the guy needed to be found, but biggest manhunt in recent British times?!

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 15/7/2010 3:49:23 PM   
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Obviously the guy needed to be found, but biggest manhunt in recent British times?!


Yes to prevent him ACTUALLY KILLING someone. He was in prison beforehand for killing someone, he got out and attempted it again. They were lucky. You honestly would rather people dead just not to have the biggest manhunt England has ever had?

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 15/7/2010 10:06:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did I dream watching a news report that the creater took this down?  Please someone else say they saw that too?!  Yet it's still up.  Found another, more worthwhile group, newly starting up..  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-the-families-that-suffered-because-of-Raoul-Moat-3/135332736499169#!/pages/Support-the-families-that-suffered-because-of-Raoul-Moat-3/135332736499169

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 15/7/2010 11:18:06 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 16/7/2010 12:45:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		frankly this whole moat thing sticks in my maw a little. I'm a very liberal, understanding guy, i'll go to bat for anyone over anything and try to get them a fair deal....its just how i was raised....all things (men included being equal under god....who may or may not exist)...but how is it we have got away from the fundimental issue of the fact this guy killed one person, maimed another and shot one other.....after serving time for killing someone. Quite apart from the fact one of the injured was a serving police officer, this bastard deserverd what he got and a whole lot more....if i had been there i would have volenteered to pull the trigger for him....
and for him now to be viewed as some kind of anti-hero, a poster boy for the mentally ill.....WTF?
Plenty of people out there have problems, some a fuckload worse than others, far as i can remember none of them went on a rampage and shot some people up...
ANTI-HERO........seriously?
I say this with not one hint of sarcasim, when the autopsey is conducted and out of the way...dont bury the cunt, take his body and hang it from trafalgar square....let it swing till his body rotts and falls from the rope. How can onyone treat this person with anything less than utter contempt? its beyond me, he was already a criminal, then he was set free, got some guns (ILLIGAL IN THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE!!!!) killed one and totally ended the lives of two others......let the fucker rot.
RIP raul moat? BURN in hell raul moat, may your agonies be everlasting and your torment eternal, you cunt.


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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 16/7/2010 1:11:17 PM   
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Obviously the guy needed to be found, but biggest manhunt in recent British times?!


Yes to prevent him ACTUALLY KILLING someone. He was in prison beforehand for killing someone, he got out and attempted it again. They were lucky. You honestly would rather people dead just not to have the biggest manhunt England has ever had?


I'm pretty sure there have been other guys worth more. The police only went apeshit because he harmed a fellow officer

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 16/7/2010 5:59:39 PM   
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I'm pretty sure there have been other guys worth more. The police only went apeshit because he harmed a fellow officer


If you're 'pretty sure', then name people worth having a manhunt across the whole of northern England for.
That, and the fact he's a murderer.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 18/7/2010 12:46:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I can't name any, not a fucking expert, but I'm pretty damn sure there have been people on the run who have been much more dangerous than him. He even said himself that the public are safe

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 18/7/2010 3:37:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Really? I thought he said that he was going to start shooting at the public as well. He said that damn much who knows where his head was. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth hearing about the piece of shit! He's a murderer, has blinded a cop and scared his ex for life emotionally as well as physically add to that the he allegedly beat women and children and stood his daughter outside with a sign round her neck saying 'naughty' he's better off dead.....at least it saves us paying to keep him in prison.

As for the scummy bastards who joined the group and the sponging bitch who set it up, I hope they join him wherever he is right now!

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 18/7/2010 4:14:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		He only wanted to shoot the police he didn't have anything against civilians just police. Tbh he deserves to be dead after what he did to that policeman and how someone can call him a legend after something like that must have serious mental issues.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 18/7/2010 4:39:38 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 18/7/2010 4:44:37 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 19/7/2010 12:44:54 AM   
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He only wanted to shoot the police he didn't have anything against civilians just police. Tbh he deserves to be dead after what he did to that policeman and how someone can call him a legend after something like that must have serious mental issues.


No he threatened the public as well, I knew I wasn't imagening it. Even threatening the cops is bad enough. Love them or hate we need them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10565917

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 19/7/2010 8:37:19 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 20/7/2010 1:21:29 PM   
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Well I can't name any, not a fucking expert, but I'm pretty damn sure there have been people on the run who have been much more dangerous than him. He even said himself that the public are safe


If people were more dangerous you can bet they'd make the news.

..
... They didn't.

Sure, his vendetta was aimed at police officers. That doesn't mean the public are safe though. Guns are dangerous weapons, especially in the hand of a psycho. Plus he killed his girlfriend (or someone close to him) so I don't believe he would have left the public alone.

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I really get annoyed with people who hate the cops.  Can you imagine the anarchy if we didn't have the police?


I do too. Also the hate usually has no basis to it, they might have one bad experience of their police force and deem the lot pricks. Kinda like racists.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 24/7/2010 5:31:01 PM   
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Eh, I'm more annoyed that the tabloids instantly cast anyone with a gun and anyone who supports said person a straight-up "monster". Obviously it is bad that he killed someone, but I think his whole case has been beefed up too much. Shot (didn't kill) one police officer and suddenly the whole force is after him? Shows more about the police than him.
From what I can gather, the police fucked him over real bad, so his anger was justified.


I completely agree with you here.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 30/7/2010 5:39:10 PM   
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I really get annoyed with people who hate the cops.  Can you imagine the anarchy if we didn't have the police?



I can see what you mean, but at the same time a lot of the mistrust is justified. I mean, just think of what happened to Blair Peach. And then again to Ian Tomlinson. And then again to John Charles de Menezes (sp?). Despite the fact that, in each of these cases, it was clearly unprovoked murder and the offending officers identified, the worst that seems to have happened to any of them is a 'discharge'. Not even a manslaughter prosecution. That's an absolute disgrace. Each of those people was murdered, simple as.

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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 30/7/2010 6:25:14 PM   
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RE: Raoul Moat Facebook fan page! - 13/8/2010 5:26:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course. But it gives reason to suspicion. If the majority of police officers felt that these people were killed unjustly, should they not speak out? And if they are prevented from doing so, surely something is extremely wrong.

And again, I point to the de Menezes killing. That one was ordered by Iain Blair and was done so with the full knowledge of the bulk of the service. That wasn't just a few bad apples. That was a rotting tree...

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